Democracy?
KC (a frequent commentor to my blog, I appreciate it) wrote an interesting comment the other day. He stated that democracy leads to socialism which leads to communism. I asked him to elaborate. He said an incredibly interesting response. I’m posting a portion of it here –
Just take a look at the 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto:
The 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto (USA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YrRTWsKDtE
Communism in the United States
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cb9ZBsvpxn0
Ask yourself this:
Why would the U.N., give China more accolades and praise than other country for its model of government?
Why should the playing field be level?
Why should we have shared responsibility?
Have you heard these terms and sayings?
Why should I pay for my neighbors health care, when I can barely afford my own?
I bet you have.
First of all, again thank you for your comments, I really appreciated. Secondly, I think is important for us to focus on what we know. We know that over the last 200 years that we basically we go to the polls and we elect people for the House of Representatives, the Senate and the President. As a whole, I believe that everyone could agree on this.
Is this a democracy? I guess it depends on your definition. Excluding irregularities in Ohio and Florida, the House of Representatives is elected through a democratic process and the president is elected through a democratic process. The Senate, because the representation is not proportional to population, can be argued is not a democratic body. We also have the Electoral College. This is clearly not a democratic process. If you go back and read what James Madison wrote, our founding fathers understood that this was a compromise.
I’m not sure that I would base any conclusion of what the United Nations does or doesn’t do. This is a political body made up of more than 150 countries. Each country has its own agenda. This body is designed to do exactly what the United States and the former Soviet Union wanted it to do — nothing. So, the fact that the UN had said something about China means nothing.
To answer your second question, again I take you back to our founding fathers. What was their fear that ran throughout most of their discussions? My answer, would be that their fear was that they would set up a government similiar to the one that they despised in England. They did not want to set up an elite class. No King. No Nobility. Therefore, trying to set up a system where everyone starts with a “level playing field” should be our goal. Let’s not mistake a level playing field for the concept that everyone is equal. Because we all have our own unique abilities, everyone will never be equal and the playing field will never truly be level. I don’t care how many times you explain 3 dimensional calculus some of will never get it. If we don’t want to subjugate a class of Americans (the poor) we must try to give everyone an opportunity to be as good as they can be.
Shared responsibility. There are a lot of different ways to look at this. Let’s start with the family. Is it the wife’s responsibility to raise the kids? I think that most Americans would say that the responsibility is shared among the parents. If an area in your community has become rundown and played with crime, whose responsibility is it to fix that? Is it simply the people in that area? Or is it is shared responsibility from the whole community? I’m not saying that someone who has done well has to give over all of their money to the community but if they’re able to add their leadership and their connections to help the community, everyone benefits.
If you look back over the last hundred years, America has been greatest when we have shared responsibility. After World War I, the veterans came back and had posttraumatic stress syndrome. They had multiple physical ailments. They had no jobs and no education. After years of frustration, they marched on Washington. Washington’s response was tepid but look at what happened during World War II, in 1942 and 1943, President Roosevelt moved quickly to avoid the problems that happen after World War II. The G.I. Bill was the result. The G.I. Bill made it possible for the growth that we saw throughout the 1950s and 60s. Every single one of us, who are alive today and live in the US, benefited from the G.I. Bill. Even if our families did not directly participate in World War II. We’ve benefited from the education and the industrial growth that was produced. We’ve had better cars, better planes, better infrastructure, better everything.
To answer your next question, I’ll simply say that anyone who would like to have a radical idea accepted will try to co-opt “common phrases.” They do this in order to make you think that their ideas are not that radical or that extreme.
Finally, on your healthcare question, I will refer you to my paragraph on the G.I. Bill. The concept is the same. Do you have insurance? If you do, you are paying for other people to go to the physician and to have surgery and have prenatal care, etc. That is the way insurance works. The only way for insurance to be profitable is that 90% pay for 10%. This works for car insurance or health insurance.
Again, thank you for your comments.



Is this a democracy? Yes, but we have to be clear what is meant by democracy. I think that the term democracy as a noun has a simple but broad meaning that is useful and applies to most governments that we consider democracies.
Simply, a democracy is a government with organized popular input into governing decisions.
I would add a few clarifiers. Organized popular input could mean anything from polls to referendums to electing officials by votes or caucuses. Popular means at least enough of the people beyond an oligarchy. No democracy has ever included everyone. At the very least, every democracy has excluded children. Through-out history women and various minorities were excluded. Both Athens and anti-bellum America had slaves who were excluded. What made these places democracies? Their concept of the citizen. True citizenship always seemed to be tied to the military and property rights.
A practical difference between a democracy and an oligarchy is that one can usually name and identify the oligarchs. I think that China is a good example of an oligarchy. China is ruled by executive council of the Party which is identifiable.
Many confuse democracy with democratic. Democratic is an adjective that is typically used in 2 ways. Democratic either describes the extent of direct participation or the equality of participation. So we can compare institutions, the Senate is more democratic than courts but less democratic than the house. On the other hand, the senate may be more democratic than the House because smaller states are treated more equally. The Courts may be more democratic than the legislatures because minorities have a bigger voice.
I am a little confused by the democracy leads to communism. The two largest communist states arose from feudal empires with either very limited or no democratic institutions.
OTOH, both Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy arose from failed democracies. So maybe the socialism part is right.
BTW, in regards to auto insurance analogy, not everyone pays or benefits. If you have no insurance and crash into a tree, then you are SOL for the car repair.
Great comment. I agree 100%.