Where's the Outrage?

Well thats the way it works. Being genuine is a lost virtue. You have to have a shady past. Something which can be used to trash you a century later. If you dont, someone will probably just cook up one for you.

Exactly. Barack’s bugeyed ex-preacher is all Hillary & the Repugs have, those joined-at-the-hip jackasses. Pathetically, the press plays along with it.

Edit out Wright’s rhetoric, the source of his sermons’ impact, and what he says isn’t only true. It’s obvious.

Jeff and others,

I think you miss the point about the whole Wright controversy. He attended this church for 20 years. There is no way he didn’t know about the controversial ideas of his pastor. He even says his pastor was the inspiration for his book,the Audacity of Hope. He has had tremendous influence on his life. Once more, he lied about knowing about these controversial ideas. There is no way he didn’t know. There is plenty of evidence he did know. Barack Obama knew this would be a problem over a year ago. So why didn’t he distance himself from Wright, then. Sounds like lack of judgment to me. Also the Resko thing. He lied about that. It wasn’t $100,000.00 dollars he took form Resko. Turns out it was a quarter of a million dollars. He lied about that and showed poor judgment. Sounds like the corner stone of his campaign is falling apart. He lacks judgment, experience, and wisdom. He lied. He is a phony.

Obama is the one who has made judgment part of this campaign. Now let him reap his own punishment. Those who stand on the ground of moral authority and superiority as he has, are doomed to fall. No one human being can be the kind of person he is portraying himself to be. What a fairy tale.

Now he is being found out.

The only way he can square this lack of judgment is to stop going to that church, denounce Wright, not just his statements, pay back the $250,000 people and stand up at a press conference and apologize and answer questions truthfully. He must also support a redo at both Michigan and Florida so that the American people can vote. If not he will risk losing the election/nomination and splitting the Democratic party.

This is a man who has fallen from grace! The American people are no longer fooled and it is about time.

According to the most recent Rasmussen polls, his numbers have dropped 8 % against Clinton. It is having its affect. Obama has not yet been vetted and McCain will eat him for lunch. It is much too risky to put the nomination in the hands of such a phony. He will lose the election and then the Blacks themselves will be blamed. The Clinton supporters will move over to McCain. The Democratic party will be split over this and the Republicans will win again.

Let’s get back to reality. Lack of judgment and experience is the issue. Obama made this a central part of his own campaign. He has only himself to blame. Pride goeth before a fall.

Your analogy is wrong. Hagee’s endorsement of McCain is like Farrakhan’s endorsement of Obama. Neither can control an endorsement of anyone who wants to get up in front of a microphone. McCain doesn’t attend Hagee’s church. Obama is not a member of the Nation of Islam.

Obama has been a member of Wright’s church for over 20 years. Wright has been an advisor and spiritual leader for Obama for almost half his life. The Obamas have taken their children to hear his divisive, hate-filled, factually wrong and anti-US messages. They go way beyond “fiery” rhetoric.

Obama’s answers do not appear to be truthful or forthcoming. He acts as if he has never heard any of it. So, the issue about his relationship will continue to fester until he comes clean. He is acting like a typical politician with something to hide. THAT IS THE ISSUE!

It seems like Obama’s true colors are starting to show. The fact that he continues to sit under Reverend “No Good’s” teaching just shows what character he has. This is definitely going to hurt him as he goes forth with his campaign and rightfully so. Obama has some quacked out followers. First Farakkhan and now Wright, I wonder who is going to be next. It’s shameful that although he said he denounced reverend Wright’s comments, he still said he would not leave his church. Just makes you wonder what is it that is in Wright that continues to awe Obama! I’m disgusted!

What really cracks me up is how Democrats try to cover something like this up and treat this situation like it is nothing but the majority of the people know how serious Wright’s words are. He sounds like a terrorist! If a Republican were involved in something like this the democrats would be crying foul and would be asking that person to leave the race. The facts are that Obama’s pastor is racist which isn’t Obama’s fault. I do hold Obama accountable for continuing to stay under Wright since he has said that he will not leave the church. I really hope he does stay so that the Republicans will have a field day with his problems. Pastor Hagee has endorsed McCain but hasn’t gone off the deep end like Wright has. Hagee has said things about the Catholic church but that’s what he really believes. I have heard him speak and he doesn’t “slam” the Catholic church he simply teached what he truly believes. Is he wrong? I don’t know for sure but I do know that he was not speaking foolishness like Wright was saying. For Wright to say that we brought 9/11 upon ourselves is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. What gets me is why is Obama so faithful to man that is setting a horrible example to the nation. Wright sounds like he is filled with hate and he sounds more like an activist than a reverend. He is spreading extremism. Maybe he should join Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson and those other clowns! I am a hardcore conservative Republican and believe me when I say this; Obama is done if he doesn’t drop Reverend “No Good!” “McCain 2008″

Geezis….

Diane, Mima, et al–

I was raised Episcopalian. Because R. Gene Robinson, a gay man, became a Vermont bishop, there’s now a worldwide Episcopal Church schism. Over one guy, because the church doesn’t like who he loves. All that notwithstanding, I’m still free to disavow the Episcopal Church’s formally expressed fear and hatred of Bishop Robinson.

Just as with Senator Obama, my church membership didn’t negate my ability to think critically or to oppose the views or statements of the church or those of any of its officials. With regard to Rev. Wright’s statements, Obama has done so, publicly.

Your holding Obama responsible for Rev. Wright’s words is no more valid, persuasive or fair than someone holding each of you responsible for my words. Or me for yours.

“The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” Surely you’ve heard that before.

To the establishments of both parties, Barack Obama poses the first real threat in a very long time. Because of that, the Clintons and the Republicans have found temporary common cause. Hence the anti-Obama barrage, with the corporate media joined in.

Obama threatens to dethrone all these people and do all of us a lot of good. Despite that, with your help they’re destroying his candidacy.

Try to get that if that succeeds, the Repugs will then destroy Hillary. By becoming part of it, you guys are the Democrats’ traditional circular firing squad.

Big Cee–

You’re squawking the squawk of the Repug chickenhawk. “Let’s you and them fight.” If that’s what you believe, put your ass where your mouth is. Enlist in the military. Today. They’ll take you up to age 42, older if you’ve served previously. While you’re at it, request to serve in Iraq. You can vote McCain by absentee ballot.

Oh yeah. Looks like you better read up on 9/11 too.

ecthompson – You keep saying that these things that Reverend Wright said are said in every black church in America and are geared towards a black audience as a reaction to racism. In other words, it’s a black thing, we just don’t understand.

Fine. But if that is the case, why is Obama distancing himself so much and renouncing the words? You seem to be implying that Obama really does hear this stuff all the time but is renouncing it now because he got found out. Is that what you believe? If so, I like that even less.

Revisiting John McCain’s Hatred Towards “Gooks”…..Funny how people would like to blame Barack for something his Pastor said and noone has really said anything about John McCain with regards to comments that he actually made himself….

Let’s face the facts. This year’s Democratic Presidential campaign is vicious, mean spirited, and coming mainly from Hillary and Bill Clinton. The mainstream media seems to forget this and most often discuss the mudslinging as if it is an even venture by both candidates. Reverend Wright’s comments are way out of line and have in the eyes of many fence sitting Americans, surfaced a major chink in Barack’s amour. In other words, Reverend Wrights’ extreme rhetoric may work in a black church, but not on the national political stage. Please note that the black church does not win presidential elections but can, in the end, lose them. Barack should have known once the microscope turned his way any little molecule of negative shrift would be surfaced, enlarged, and exploited by whatever means necessary by both the Clinton’s and the press. The bottom line remains, the Clinton’s will use whatever means necessary to regain the White House and Barack Obama is in their line of fire. It is clear that the media evaluates presidential campaigns through the spectrum of the white culture, which fails to understand that the black culture remains largely separate and different; both need to remember that fact.

The full sermon which Fox News didn’t feel fit to show. Yeah, he really seems like a major hatemonger to me.

Xmas 2007, Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdfbWSJINhg
Xmas 2007, Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVeK0JDPm8Y
Xmas 2007, Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o36KBeDXJ8
Xmas 2007, Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFQAQVcn89A

What’s amazing here is that Obama didn’t bother to distance himself not just now that it’s in the news nationally, but for all the 20 years he attended the church. Over the years he started thinking about becoming a state representative, then a US senator, then president. The fact that he could not see how extreme Wright is, not only now but over 20 years, demonstrates his poor judgement.

If this is a friend he doesn’t mind the whole world to know he is associated with, what kind of friends does he have that he does not want us to know about?

I am a white 54 yo granny, who actually HAS black friends. I have heard many of the same concerns/complaints from some, not all, of them particularly about crack cocaine being introduced to the black community. If Mr Obama were more transparent, he would say this is a real concern in the black community (even it none of it is true) and of course there are many reasons why black Americans feel this way.
More plausable than not ever knowing his friend’s opinions,(since this old white lady has heard my friend’s opinions) he should have made clear he is bi-racial and being raised by white folk maybe he wanted the “black experience” even if through the eyes of persons raised in very different circumstances.
However from his words and actions it looks like he just wants to be on the winning side…it was good to be there while Illinois was his prize, but now that it is the White House…not so good, so he denounces and denies.
May I also say that it is disappointing when I hear of any black minister not including poor and disadvantaged white persons in their sermons, because many of us are in similar boats, and I am a fan of many radio and television ministers, whom happen to be black. Some include and some others act as if they, like Wright are stuck in the past, not realizing that a lot of whites DO listen, DO respect, and need the message of God,regardless of color.

Two sad things:

1. Wright’s words cheat his parishioners, by making them victims. No wonder Oprah quit.

2. Obama looks just like the white guys who only want to be on the side that is winning-NO CHANGE.

He shouldn’t disown he preacher he should explain.

PS. re: Catholic priests forgiving sin, it is biblical that Christ left Christians with the power of forgiveness. Read your Bible. I am not Catholic, by the way.

Catholics do not believe a priest can forgive sins. Only God is able to do that. Priests are agents of God. They hear your sins and absolve them in the name of God. Also, all protestants were once Catholics, hence the term Protestant, which means you are protesting against the original Catholic Church. Duh.

Therefore,if you believe Catholicism is a false religion, then you do not believe in YOUR religion, since it originated as the Catholic faith. All Christians trace their religion back to Catholicism, and then to Judaism and so on all the way back to polytheism and worshiping nature. (Judaism was once a polytheistic religion.)

Every one has a right to worship the way they believe. Our country was founded on this right. I may not agree with Mormonism, but they believe in God, so it is a religion.

I was raised Catholic. I do not go to church, but I am still offended when people criticize things they know nothing about. I have been to many Protestant services and also to synagogue. How many Catholic Masses have you attended?

Transubstantiation has been hotly debated in the Catholic church for centuries, and many practicing Catholics do not believe in it. The Pope will not change this as it is fundamental church doctrine, established almost two centuries ago.

BTW Obama’s minister is practicing Freedom of Speech. He is basically saying that the USA is hypocritical, because the govt is doing the same things that they denounce in other countries.

Thanks for your comments.

For those who are criticizing Barack for just plain “dropping” or “disowning” Rev. Wright, I taste a bit of sour hypocracy. Why? Well, for starters, you, the voters are “disowning” Barack over this single man. A single man whose words are meant to both shock and repel those who aren’t willing to analyze what he says.

I’m not little Ms. Factoid over here.. I’m voting for my first time ever this election. Until the freaking media can scoop out some dirt that’s worse than this.. stupidity.. Obama’s still on my ballot. Hell, I’ll write obama’s name on the ballot screen if I have to.

Barack did NOT just drop the Reverend out of his politics truck with a flip of his political wand; and he DID explain. Remember his speech on race? Something along the lines of, “I have not always agreed with what Reverend Wright has said..” and even going into how he knows that his words are harsh at times. What else do you people want from him? You want him to reach into Rev. Wright’s brain and turn off the “big mouth” switch?

He can’t freaking put a Muzzle on the Reverend! Plus- do you even GO to the Rev.’s church? Hmm? Have you ever been there to hear a 30 minute sermon; and not just the “shocking” 3-minute climax of his speeches?

No. You haven’t. You just turned on your television and saw an angry looking preacher spewing words. And you were appaled, maybe even disgusted.

Well, sorry. That’s all the media decided to show you. They didn’t follow reverend Wright around his church and film him every-single Sunday for a whole decade. Unless you attended church with the Reverend, you’ll never even know half of what he talked about, and how he delivered it.

Plus, I think we make WAY too many assumptions based on the words he chose for his sermon. “Oh my lord! He said.. the.. the N word!” Uh, is it just me, or do I hear that word murmered by people I know every day? But I’m not using that as an excuse; it’s a horrible word to say. But answer this;

Was Hillary EVER called a N**er?

Pfft, I think we ALL know the answer to that one.