Comments on: Update: Obama Moving to the Center http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2008/07/02/obama-moving-to-the-center/ Thoughtful, intelligent, entertaining, progressive discussion about politics, sports and whatever Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:03:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Where’s the Outrage? » HB - Did Obama change his position on Iraq? http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2008/07/02/obama-moving-to-the-center/comment-page-1/#comment-57921 Where’s the Outrage? » HB - Did Obama change his position on Iraq? Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:31:09 +0000 http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/?p=7090#comment-57921 [...] Obama has taken some heat from the left over the last 2 - 3 weeks. Well, on Thursday of last week, Barack Obama seems to leave the door open to changing his Iraq [...] [...] Obama has taken some heat from the left over the last 2 – 3 weeks. Well, on Thursday of last week, Barack Obama seems to leave the door open to changing his Iraq [...]

]]> By: ecthompson http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2008/07/02/obama-moving-to-the-center/comment-page-1/#comment-57903 ecthompson Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:18:28 +0000 http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/?p=7090#comment-57903 Hey, thanks for the research. I appreciate it. E Hey, thanks for the research. I appreciate it.

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]]> By: TCB http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2008/07/02/obama-moving-to-the-center/comment-page-1/#comment-57897 TCB Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:33:19 +0000 http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/?p=7090#comment-57897 ECT: Unfortunately, as we have now found out, they were more about funneling money into the pockets of people that Bush liked. The program was less about helping the poor or decreasing inner-city violence. As a matter of fact, it had nothing to do with those kind of charitable issues. The program was about keeping the religious evangelicals supportive of the Bush administration. Therefore, programs like intelligent design, abstinence only and the like were pushed by this faith-based initiative. ME: A quick goggle turned up a few interesting stories about faith based programs. The main concern expressed by critics was that people would be turned away due to religious beliefs. I didn’t find any concerned about intelligent design funding. I did find a lot of programs serving the inner city. From USA Today Over on North Chester Street, in the heart of the inner city here, some 30 African-American boys and girls ages 6-11 leave school every weekday afternoon and noisily dash to a neighborhood center in a former Lutheran church for two hours of after-school reading and math. Teacher Tiara Moyd helps Kaylah Smith, 6, and Kiearra Satchell, 7, with their homework at "The Door," a faith-based community center funded by a grant from a Christian group. From the Boston Globe: An analysis of the $1.17 billion and nearly 150 interviews in 30 states with grant recipients found: Many are well-established, large social service providers that have received federal money for decades. More than 80 percent of recipients at HHS had received federal money before. At HUD, the figure was 93 percent. Two programs account for half of the $1.17 billion total: A HUD program known as Section 202 that builds housing for low-income poor people, and Head Start, a large preschool program for poor children. Many organizations insist they do not belong on a list of ''faith-based organizations," even though they may have religious roots. ECT: Unfortunately, as we have now found out, they were more about funneling money into the pockets of people that Bush liked. The program was less about helping the poor or decreasing inner-city violence. As a matter of fact, it had nothing to do with those kind of charitable issues.

The program was about keeping the religious evangelicals supportive of the Bush administration. Therefore, programs like intelligent design, abstinence only and the like were pushed by this faith-based initiative.

ME: A quick goggle turned up a few interesting stories about faith based programs. The main concern expressed by critics was that people would be turned away due to religious beliefs. I didn’t find any concerned about intelligent design funding. I did find a lot of programs serving the inner city.

From USA Today
Over on North Chester Street, in the heart of the inner city here, some 30 African-American boys and girls ages 6-11 leave school every weekday afternoon and noisily dash to a neighborhood center in a former Lutheran church for two hours of after-school reading and math.

Teacher Tiara Moyd helps Kaylah Smith, 6, and Kiearra Satchell, 7, with their homework at “The Door,” a faith-based community center funded by a grant from a Christian group.

From the Boston Globe:
An analysis of the $1.17 billion and nearly 150 interviews in 30 states with grant recipients found:
Many are well-established, large social service providers that have received federal money for decades. More than 80 percent of recipients at HHS had received federal money before. At HUD, the figure was 93 percent.

Two programs account for half of the $1.17 billion total: A HUD program known as Section 202 that builds housing for low-income poor people, and Head Start, a large preschool program for poor children.

Many organizations insist they do not belong on a list of ”faith-based organizations,” even though they may have religious roots.

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