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		<title>By: Carol Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 04:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virginia - I had never seen that picture before.  Thanks for that.  It is great as well as the text that went with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virginia &#8211; I had never seen that picture before.  Thanks for that.  It is great as well as the text that went with it.</p>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Virginia Cotts -

you are 100% correct.  It would be nice if helmets for motorcycle riders and bicycle riders become more the norm and not the exception.  It is clear that they save lives and reduce injury. (I wrote a piece on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2006/06/30/dont-underestimate-the-dangers-of-motorcycles/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;motorcycle safety&lt;/a&gt;.)

Here&#039;s that picture that you referenced - 
&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/13obama-bike.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;Obama in Bike helmet&quot; /&gt;
Great picture for safety.

thanks for your thoughtful comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Virginia Cotts -</p>
<p>you are 100% correct.  It would be nice if helmets for motorcycle riders and bicycle riders become more the norm and not the exception.  It is clear that they save lives and reduce injury. (I wrote a piece on <a href="http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2006/06/30/dont-underestimate-the-dangers-of-motorcycles/" rel="nofollow">motorcycle safety</a>.)</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s that picture that you referenced &#8211;<br />
<img src="http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/13obama-bike.jpg" alt="Obama in Bike helmet" /><br />
Great picture for safety.</p>
<p>thanks for your thoughtful comments.</p>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AnacherForester -

I&#039;m not sure that you can categorize dramatic brain injured patients as infinitely or was it exponentially less likely to seek medical care.  It is clear that some of them are not thinking clearly and therefore don&#039;t seek medical care.

I&#039;m glad you&#039;re better.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AnacherForester -</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that you can categorize dramatic brain injured patients as infinitely or was it exponentially less likely to seek medical care.  It is clear that some of them are not thinking clearly and therefore don&#8217;t seek medical care.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re better.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments</p>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ed-words - 

I have no idea.  I&#039;ve never been skiing.  it is clear that helmets help but they&#039;re not perfect.

Thanks for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ed-words &#8211; </p>
<p>I have no idea.  I&#8217;ve never been skiing.  it is clear that helmets help but they&#8217;re not perfect.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sid Schwab - 

 thanks for your thoughts.  I appreciate them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sid Schwab &#8211; </p>
<p> thanks for your thoughts.  I appreciate them.</p>
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		<title>By: offog</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 02:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My condolences to Ms. Richardson&#039;s family and friends.  She was more than a beautiful and talented actress.   Her family is a good bunch of people.

Re:  Helmets.  Maybe it will be good to raise some awareness.  

Head injuries are nothing to mess around with.  When I was a little kid, my Mom&#039;s friend had a small boy who fell down the stairs.  He was a little dazed for a few minutes, but seemed to be okay.  Then he died from the injury.  Because of that, Mom knew enough to take us kids to the ER if we hit our heads, like the time my little brother fell off a shelf.  The hospital kept him overnight for observation, just in case. 

When I was walking to the office one winter day a few years ago, I fell flat on my back and hit the back of my head really good.  The next evening, I came down with severe nausea and headache.  So over to the ER I went.  I got my head examined, and fortunately, got a clean bill of health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My condolences to Ms. Richardson&#8217;s family and friends.  She was more than a beautiful and talented actress.   Her family is a good bunch of people.</p>
<p>Re:  Helmets.  Maybe it will be good to raise some awareness.  </p>
<p>Head injuries are nothing to mess around with.  When I was a little kid, my Mom&#8217;s friend had a small boy who fell down the stairs.  He was a little dazed for a few minutes, but seemed to be okay.  Then he died from the injury.  Because of that, Mom knew enough to take us kids to the ER if we hit our heads, like the time my little brother fell off a shelf.  The hospital kept him overnight for observation, just in case. </p>
<p>When I was walking to the office one winter day a few years ago, I fell flat on my back and hit the back of my head really good.  The next evening, I came down with severe nausea and headache.  So over to the ER I went.  I got my head examined, and fortunately, got a clean bill of health.</p>
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		<title>By: Virginia Cotts RN BSN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virginia Cotts RN BSN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to find an expert in the field writing about this. As an RN for 32 years, much of it in critical care, I have a lot of experience with families who want projections on the recovery of their loved one after they have first seen them in the ICU. IF the patient recovers, it can be anything from routine to inexplicably amazing. 

What I hope to see is a push by the neuro and rehab communities about wearing helmets. I&#039;ve been appalled at how many blog comments have insisted that &#039;no one wears a helmet when skiing&#039;.  The competitors do, but apparently they don&#039;t count. 

My 29 and 24 year old kids grew up being the only ones on the block who had to wear bike helmets. They wear them still, for motorcycles, snowboarding and anything else that means their bodies are moving faster than walking speed. 

Which should explain one of my favorite pics from the campaign - and Obama&#039;s very conscious decision to set the example.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/obamas-helmet-moment/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to find an expert in the field writing about this. As an RN for 32 years, much of it in critical care, I have a lot of experience with families who want projections on the recovery of their loved one after they have first seen them in the ICU. IF the patient recovers, it can be anything from routine to inexplicably amazing. </p>
<p>What I hope to see is a push by the neuro and rehab communities about wearing helmets. I&#8217;ve been appalled at how many blog comments have insisted that &#8216;no one wears a helmet when skiing&#8217;.  The competitors do, but apparently they don&#8217;t count. </p>
<p>My 29 and 24 year old kids grew up being the only ones on the block who had to wear bike helmets. They wear them still, for motorcycles, snowboarding and anything else that means their bodies are moving faster than walking speed. </p>
<p>Which should explain one of my favorite pics from the campaign &#8211; and Obama&#8217;s very conscious decision to set the example.</p>
<p><a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/obamas-helmet-moment/" rel="nofollow">http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/13/obamas-helmet-moment/</a></p>
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		<title>By: AnacherForester</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnacherForester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike broken limbs, puncture wounds, etc., brain injuries are frequently difficult to recognize at first. For all intents &amp; purposes this kind injury is invisible. Avoiding a trip to the ER is human nature. Compared to other trauma injuries a person w/ a TBI is almost exponentially less likely to seek medical attention. TBI&#039;s can seriously impair judgment too.

I have firsthand experience with a TBIs. I too initially refused medical treatment. It&#039;s no exaggeration to say I&#039;m lucky to alive (tho&#039; I do have a seizure disorder &amp; other health problems as a result). This easily could have been my story. 

What a shame. My thoughts are with her family.

-AF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike broken limbs, puncture wounds, etc., brain injuries are frequently difficult to recognize at first. For all intents &amp; purposes this kind injury is invisible. Avoiding a trip to the ER is human nature. Compared to other trauma injuries a person w/ a TBI is almost exponentially less likely to seek medical attention. TBI&#8217;s can seriously impair judgment too.</p>
<p>I have firsthand experience with a TBIs. I too initially refused medical treatment. It&#8217;s no exaggeration to say I&#8217;m lucky to alive (tho&#8217; I do have a seizure disorder &amp; other health problems as a result). This easily could have been my story. </p>
<p>What a shame. My thoughts are with her family.</p>
<p>-AF</p>
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		<title>By: Ed-words</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed-words</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2009 00:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t like she tripped coming out of a store

 She was learning to ski! Don&#039;t (at least)

 beginning skiers wear safety helmets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t like she tripped coming out of a store</p>
<p> She was learning to ski! Don&#8217;t (at least)</p>
<p> beginning skiers wear safety helmets?</p>
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		<title>By: Sid Schwab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid Schwab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I do know that; and now, of course, the autopsy has confirmed. I was responding to the initial information that it was a &quot;routine&quot; fall on a learners&#039; slope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I do know that; and now, of course, the autopsy has confirmed. I was responding to the initial information that it was a &#8220;routine&#8221; fall on a learners&#8217; slope.</p>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sid Schwab -

There is a misperception in the public that everyone with a head injury just keels over and collapses, that&#039;s not the case.  I admitted a guy just couple weeks ago who was hit in the head repeatedly with a bat and he came to the hospital at little sleepy  He had a subarachnoid hemorrhage.in that same vein that took care of a lady who was in her mid-80s she had fallen over a month ago she a large subdural hemorrhage on both sides of her brain but did not present until four weeks after the incident.

Thanks for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sid Schwab -</p>
<p>There is a misperception in the public that everyone with a head injury just keels over and collapses, that&#8217;s not the case.  I admitted a guy just couple weeks ago who was hit in the head repeatedly with a bat and he came to the hospital at little sleepy  He had a subarachnoid hemorrhage.in that same vein that took care of a lady who was in her mid-80s she had fallen over a month ago she a large subdural hemorrhage on both sides of her brain but did not present until four weeks after the incident.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H. G. Lite - 

This was most likely what it seems.  A head injury.  Sorry about your friend.

Thanks for your input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H. G. Lite &#8211; </p>
<p>This was most likely what it seems.  A head injury.  Sorry about your friend.</p>
<p>Thanks for your input.</p>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>patrick - 

You are right.  This type of event does occur every day.  If we think back something similar happened to one of the Kennedy&#039;s and to Sonny Bono.  Yet, no new research or funding.  

Thanks for your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>patrick &#8211; </p>
<p>You are right.  This type of event does occur every day.  If we think back something similar happened to one of the Kennedy&#8217;s and to Sonny Bono.  Yet, no new research or funding.  </p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 19:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aimai - Sorry for your loss.  Thanks for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aimai &#8211; Sorry for your loss.  Thanks for your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Sid Schwab</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sid Schwab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GIven the information that she was initially fine, don&#039;t you think it likely that there was underlying pathology, such as a cerebral aneurysm? And that the bleed might even have been unrelated, or secondarily related, to the fall?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GIven the information that she was initially fine, don&#8217;t you think it likely that there was underlying pathology, such as a cerebral aneurysm? And that the bleed might even have been unrelated, or secondarily related, to the fall?</p>
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		<title>By: H. G. Lite</title>
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		<dc:creator>H. G. Lite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The possibilities are endless and sometimes don&#039;t make any sense unfortunately until an autopsy is performed, as in the case of a friend’s daughter who suddenly collapsed, and postmortem was diagnosed with a dissecting aneurysm of the cerebral artery.  My thoughts and condolences to the family for this tragic loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The possibilities are endless and sometimes don&#8217;t make any sense unfortunately until an autopsy is performed, as in the case of a friend’s daughter who suddenly collapsed, and postmortem was diagnosed with a dissecting aneurysm of the cerebral artery.  My thoughts and condolences to the family for this tragic loss.</p>
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		<title>By: patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This type of accident happens probably every day... one can only hope that because of her celebrity status, more people will have become aware of how serious any head injury might be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This type of accident happens probably every day&#8230; one can only hope that because of her celebrity status, more people will have become aware of how serious any head injury might be.</p>
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		<title>By: aimai</title>
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		<dc:creator>aimai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My heart goes out to her family. She was a wonderful actress and a glowing presence on the screen and, apparently, off.  I am personally extremely upset by what happened to her because, as far as I can see, a quicker realization that she was suffering from bleeding on the brain would have enabled them to operate to relieve pressure before her brain was gone.  I have a personal experience of this and I know how surprising and shocking this is. My niece, also named Natasha, died of a related but spontaneous brain embolism within days of her first days in third grade.  By the time the family figured out something was wrong the bleeding was so far advanced that she weas brain dead. But there was no precipitating fall or knock that might have offered a clue as to what was going on.  

My heart is broken for Ms. Richardson&#039;s children and husband. This is a terrible loss.

aimai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My heart goes out to her family. She was a wonderful actress and a glowing presence on the screen and, apparently, off.  I am personally extremely upset by what happened to her because, as far as I can see, a quicker realization that she was suffering from bleeding on the brain would have enabled them to operate to relieve pressure before her brain was gone.  I have a personal experience of this and I know how surprising and shocking this is. My niece, also named Natasha, died of a related but spontaneous brain embolism within days of her first days in third grade.  By the time the family figured out something was wrong the bleeding was so far advanced that she weas brain dead. But there was no precipitating fall or knock that might have offered a clue as to what was going on.  </p>
<p>My heart is broken for Ms. Richardson&#8217;s children and husband. This is a terrible loss.</p>
<p>aimai</p>
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