Pittsburgh Shooting

There are a lot of things that I don’t understand in this world. I don’t understand why some people are willing to beleive lies rather than the truth. There are some of these fringe right-wing folks who believe that Democrats are going to pass some type of legislation that will take their guns. The fact that Barack Obama hasn’t ever said anything like this only makes these guys more paranoid.

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From C&L (excellent post):

We’re gathering more information about Richard Polawski, the 23-year-old man who decided to kill four Pittsburgh police officers and wound five others because it appears he was afraid they — at the behest of the Obama administration — were going to take his guns away. (Dude, they definitely are now.)

Seems he was laying in wait in a carefully planned ambush:

Richard Poplawski, 23, met officers at the doorway and shot two of them in the head immediately, Harper said. An officer who tried to help the two also was killed.

Poplawski, armed with an assault rifle and two other guns, then held police at bay for four hours as the fallen officers were left bleeding nearby, their colleagues unable to reach them, according to police and witnesses. More than 100 rounds were fired by the SWAT teams and Poplawski, Harper said.

 Pittsburgh ShootingAnd he was paranoid about the Obama administration taking people’s guns away — even though, of course, there have been no indications of any such plans beyond NRA rantings:

Poplawski feared “the Obama gun ban that’s on the way” and “didn’t like our rights being infringed upon,” said Edward Perkovic, his best friend.

Perkovic, 22, said he got a call at work from him in which he said, “Eddie, I am going to die today. … Tell your family I love them and I love you.”

Perkovic said: “I heard gunshots and he hung up. … He sounded like he was in pain, like he got shot.”

Poplawski had once tried to join the Marines, but was kicked out of boot camp after throwing a food tray at a drill sergeant, Perkovic said.

Dennis Roddy at the Post-Gazette has more:

Friends described a Richard Poplawski far different from the 22-year-old man accused of gunning down three police officers today — a partier sometimes, a guy in search of an understanding of politics, even a walking comedian.

He was also convinced that the government wanted to take away his guns and his freedom.

There are bits about him out on the Internet. There are the MySpace photos, like the one above. He also seems to have co-created an “Insane Ownage” video for You Tube.

Perhaps just as interesting are the views of Poplowski’s much-quoted “best friend,” Edd Perkovic, whose MySpace page, as Troll Report notices, is rich anti-Semitic hate talk like this:

DOCUMENTS I RECCOMEND YOU READ BY GOOGLE: “Civil War II” by Tom Chittum “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” “The Turner Diaries” by Dr. William Pierce “Jewish Supremacy” by Dr. David Duke It Has Even Been Documented In The Communist Manifesto: ““We must realize that our party’s most powerful weapon is racial tension. “By propounding into the consciousness of the dark races that for centuries they have been oppressed by the whites, we can mold them to the program of the Communist Party. “In America we will aim for subtle victory. While inflaming the Negro minority against the whites, we will endeavour to instill in the whites a guilt complex for their exploitation of the Negros. “We will aid the Negros to rise to prominence in every walk of life, in the professions, and in the world of sports and entertainment.

Meanwhile, Fox also interviewed Tom Moffit, who was a neighbor of Poplawski’s. He apparently believed that Poplawski was acting out of gun paranoia as well.

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  • Dr. David --

    For over year I've been complaining about the lack of debate in this country over multiple different issues. I even mentioned it last week on my radio show. It seems like all subjects have their liberal and conservative talking points. It really doesn't matter what the subject is -- immigration, health care, gun control, nuclear arms, North Korea, Social Security and tax cuts. There is a liberal position and there is a conservative position. Because of this, there's no true debate instead the two sides are simply hollering at each other.

    I have no problem with the Second Amendment, except it really needs to be clarified. As it currently reads --A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. I find that first phrase somewhat confusing. What the heck is a well regulated militia? I think the Second Amendment needs to be corrected (I did not want to use the word amend again) to read -- It is the right of the American people to keep and bear arms. No state shall infringe on this right. Congress has granted the authority to curtail this right and a two thirds vote, in both houses, in order to protect the public interest.

    I have no problem with someone wanting to protect themselves or particular families. There is no question that guns are an effective means of protection. My problem is that gun violence in United States has become so common that the shooting of a nephrologist in his office does not make the national news. A friend of mine who graduated with me from medical school was leaving her office and she saw her patient in such an uncomfortable situation with her "significant other" that my friend thought she had to intervene. This physician was shot and killed for her kindness. That story also did not make the national news.

    Thank you for your thoughtful comments.
  • ecthompson
    Dr. David --

    For over year I've been complaining about the lack of debate in this country over multiple different issues. I even mentioned it last week on my radio show. It seems like all subjects have their liberal and conservative talking points. It really doesn't matter what the subject is -- immigration, health care, gun control, nuclear arms, North Korea, Social Security and tax cuts. There is a liberal position and there is a conservative position. Because of this, there's no true debate instead the two sides are simply hollering at each other.

    I have no problem with the Second Amendment, except it really needs to be clarified. As it currently reads --A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. I find that first phrase somewhat confusing. What the heck is a well regulated militia? I think the Second Amendment needs to be corrected (I did not want to use the word amend again) to read -- It is the right of the American people to keep and bear arms. No state shall infringe on this right. Congress has granted the authority to curtail this right and a two thirds vote, in both houses, in order to protect the public interest.

    I have no problem with someone wanting to protect themselves or particular families. There is no question that guns are an effective means of protection. My problem is that gun violence in United States has become so common that the shooting of a nephrologist in his office does not make the national news. A friend of mine who graduated with me from medical school was leaving her office and she saw her patient in such an uncomfortable situation with her "significant other" that my friend thought she had to intervene. This physician was shot and killed for her kindness. That story also did not make the national news.

    Thank you for your thoughtful comments.
  • David
    Dr. Thompson,

    This discussion is less polarized than most, but it still suffers from some of the same knee-jerk reactions.

    I am a progressive, and a physician, who has become a "gun nut" over the years.

    We suffer from our protected American viewpoint, both the unstable person who started this (Mr. Poplawski) and the "Liberals" who loudly proclaim the insanity of anyone who reserves the ability to defend themselves.

    Both sides of my family were displaced by war in their native countries.

    We all stood by as Americans while civilized, modern, educated Europeans butchered each other in the Balkans. African children are subject to genocide while we sit here and engage in what is essentially coffee-shop opinionating.

    I am saddened by what happened in Pittsburgh. I feel a lot of fondness for western PA and I am sorry to hear this happened to the people of that fine city.

    But, this is more a sign of the times and our collective social health than anything else.

    Those who think that giving up 2nd amendment rights (which, for numerous reasons, includes individual military weapons like functional semi-auto rifles) is a cure for this sickness have little more credibility than those who think we should give up the 1st, 4th, 5th, or any other, or habeas corpus to return us to some utopia that never existed.

    Heck, I wish I could keep half the people I see from driving. But the reality is I can't. I don't run this world. But I do wish to be able to defend myself from those who wish to do significant evil.

    Respectfully,
    David
    currently of Seattle WA
  • David
    Dr. Thompson,

    This discussion is less polarized than most, but it still suffers from some of the same knee-jerk reactions.

    I am a progressive, and a physician, who has become a "gun nut" over the years.

    We suffer from our protected American viewpoint, both the unstable person who started this (Mr. Poplawski) and the "Liberals" who loudly proclaim the insanity of anyone who reserves the ability to defend themselves.

    Both sides of my family were displaced by war in their native countries.

    We all stood by as Americans while civilized, modern, educated Europeans butchered each other in the Balkans. African children are subject to genocide while we sit here and engage in what is essentially coffee-shop opinionating.

    I am saddened by what happened in Pittsburgh. I feel a lot of fondness for western PA and I am sorry to hear this happened to the people of that fine city.

    But, this is more a sign of the times and our collective social health than anything else.

    Those who think that giving up 2nd amendment rights (which, for numerous reasons, includes individual military weapons like functional semi-auto rifles) is a cure for this sickness have little more credibility than those who think we should give up the 1st, 4th, 5th, or any other, or habeas corpus to return us to some utopia that never existed.

    Heck, I wish I could keep half the people I see from driving. But the reality is I can't. I don't run this world. But I do wish to be able to defend myself from those who wish to do significant evil.

    Respectfully,
    David
    currently of Seattle WA
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  • Rational person --

    I applaud you for pointing out the obvious. It was seen to me the only group of people who benefit from this are the gun manufacturers. They're making tons of money.

    I think that the gun folks would argue that there are no "reasonable" restrictions on gun ownership.

    Thanks for your thoughts.
  • ecthompson
    Rational person --

    I applaud you for pointing out the obvious. It was seen to me the only group of people who benefit from this are the gun manufacturers. They're making tons of money.

    I think that the gun folks would argue that there are no "reasonable" restrictions on gun ownership.

    Thanks for your thoughts.
  • A Rational Person
    Thunder Pig, you are correct. This shooter was clearly a homicidal nut. And I am pleased to hear that you are not a homicidal nut.

    But you are still a nut. You wasted $4,000 on ammo to bury in case of what exactly? Obama's secret plan to take us back to the bow and arrow days? An invasion by the Commies? Aliens trying to breed with humans? The day that zombies walk the earth?

    And what makes you a nut is that you don't even realize how irrational you are.

    Reasonable gun laws are absolutely necessary to keep guns out of the hands of people like this shooter. They might not be perfect and they might not always work, but they are a no-brainer. If you have a problem with common-sense gun laws you are more irrational than you seem.

    I don't know a single person, including myself, that thinks guns should be taken away from responsible people. And that includes Obama. He never said he was going to do that. As a matter of fact, nobody in government will ever propose taking away guns. If you believe that, you need a reality check.

    Seriously, you should get to a therapist and get checked out for paranoia. Seriously.
  • A Rational Person
    Thunder Pig, you are correct. This shooter was clearly a homicidal nut. And I am pleased to hear that you are not a homicidal nut.

    But you are still a nut. You wasted $4,000 on ammo to bury in case of what exactly? Obama's secret plan to take us back to the bow and arrow days? An invasion by the Commies? Aliens trying to breed with humans? The day that zombies walk the earth?

    And what makes you a nut is that you don't even realize how irrational you are.

    Reasonable gun laws are absolutely necessary to keep guns out of the hands of people like this shooter. They might not be perfect and they might not always work, but they are a no-brainer. If you have a problem with common-sense gun laws you are more irrational than you seem.

    I don't know a single person, including myself, that thinks guns should be taken away from responsible people. And that includes Obama. He never said he was going to do that. As a matter of fact, nobody in government will ever propose taking away guns. If you believe that, you need a reality check.

    Seriously, you should get to a therapist and get checked out for paranoia. Seriously.
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  • feckless
    Dear Gun Nuts:

    Please show me a link where the NRA argues for more funding for enforcement of existing laws.

    You can't, because they don't.

    Poplawski was a terrorist.

    He used violence and the threat of it to achieve his ideological ends.

    If he had been a muslim and had blown up those police officers, all the delusional 2nd amendment misinterpreters here would be claiming he was the first of a wave of attacks and that they should ... buy guns and ammo.

    If Poplawski was a muslim and had links to anti gun sites or the ACLU the pro gun commenters would scream left wing violent conspiracy.

    ALSO: Please cite one example of a "left-wing" terrorist attacking or murdering an american in the last 25 years, the closest is eco-terrorism and animal rights, which is yet to claim a human life.

    There is a 20 year campaign to protect a minority of gun sellers who sell the majority of crime guns in this country, and to enrich the gun manufacturers beyond reason.

    This campaign has been escalated to a fever pitch since January.

    THE ONLY GUN CONTROL BILL INTRODUCED IN THIS CONGRESS:
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:1:./temp/~c111q2dTIl:e1136:

    The 'tyrannous' Blair Holt Licensing act.

    Newsflash, Bush took away your 4th amendment rights, so why do you think it relevant to fight against national gun licensing? They don't need a list, they can listen to your cellphone or monitor your email without a warrant, without a paper trail.

    Responsible gun owners want responsible laws responsibly enforced, the NRA and its Fox media allies want only their own enrichment, regardless of the cost.

    PS "well armed miltia" the reason for "tea parties" in the 18th century was to rebell against paying the tax caused by a war instigated by an inbred king fighting his relatives. THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS ANTI ARMY. And the founding fathers were right, if anyone tried to invade this country, if a foreign power took one step on our soil, the citizenry would turn out and fill them full of lead.

    The American populace is the largest armed force in the world, so why do we need a land army?

    What good did our tanks do us on 9/11?
  • feckless
    Dear Gun Nuts:

    Please show me a link where the NRA argues for more funding for enforcement of existing laws.

    You can't, because they don't.

    Poplawski was a terrorist.

    He used violence and the threat of it to achieve his ideological ends.

    If he had been a muslim and had blown up those police officers, all the delusional 2nd amendment misinterpreters here would be claiming he was the first of a wave of attacks and that they should ... buy guns and ammo.

    If Poplawski was a muslim and had links to anti gun sites or the ACLU the pro gun commenters would scream left wing violent conspiracy.

    ALSO: Please cite one example of a "left-wing" terrorist attacking or murdering an american in the last 25 years, the closest is eco-terrorism and animal rights, which is yet to claim a human life.

    There is a 20 year campaign to protect a minority of gun sellers who sell the majority of crime guns in this country, and to enrich the gun manufacturers beyond reason.

    This campaign has been escalated to a fever pitch since January.

    THE ONLY GUN CONTROL BILL INTRODUCED IN THIS CONGRESS:
    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c111:1:./temp/~c111q2dTIl:e1136:

    The 'tyrannous' Blair Holt Licensing act.

    Newsflash, Bush took away your 4th amendment rights, so why do you think it relevant to fight against national gun licensing? They don't need a list, they can listen to your cellphone or monitor your email without a warrant, without a paper trail.

    Responsible gun owners want responsible laws responsibly enforced, the NRA and its Fox media allies want only their own enrichment, regardless of the cost.

    PS "well armed miltia" the reason for "tea parties" in the 18th century was to rebell against paying the tax caused by a war instigated by an inbred king fighting his relatives. THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS ANTI ARMY. And the founding fathers were right, if anyone tried to invade this country, if a foreign power took one step on our soil, the citizenry would turn out and fill them full of lead.

    The American populace is the largest armed force in the world, so why do we need a land army?

    What good did our tanks do us on 9/11?
  • chuck
    Too bad the only gun-grab that's ever happened on American soil was perpetrated by a private military called Blackwater, after Hurricane Katrina, under the "leadership" of George W. Bush.
  • chuck
    Too bad the only gun-grab that's ever happened on American soil was perpetrated by a private military called Blackwater, after Hurricane Katrina, under the "leadership" of George W. Bush.
  • AlliB
    Margaret, I have indeed thought of getting a handgun to protect myself......against right wing nuts who own lots of weapons and hate liberals and "the gays" and everyone else they label as "unamerican"
  • AlliB
    Margaret, I have indeed thought of getting a handgun to protect myself......against right wing nuts who own lots of weapons and hate liberals and "the gays" and everyone else they label as "unamerican"
  • margaret
    I am so glad you made those points. The military is having a hard time acquiring ammunition for the wars overseas because of the fears of the NRA. Who deserves to have first choice?

    I understand the want to have a handgun for your safety. But when people hoard all kinds of weapons and have massive amounts of ammunition and it gets stolen and then sold on the streets. Are you not empowering the people who you are afraid of?
  • margaret2
    I am so glad you made those points. The military is having a hard time acquiring ammunition for the wars overseas because of the fears of the NRA. Who deserves to have first choice?

    I understand the want to have a handgun for your safety. But when people hoard all kinds of weapons and have massive amounts of ammunition and it gets stolen and then sold on the streets. Are you not empowering the people who you are afraid of?
  • AOD
    AlliB: One needs assault weapons because…..??

    AIIiB, I will do my best to answer this question because it is asked a lot.

    "The most foolish mistake we would possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquers who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing."

    This reason, told by Hitler himself, AIIiB, is why one needs assault weapons.


    In addition to this, see these examples:

    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    ------------------------------

    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    ------------------------------

    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

    ------------------------------

    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

    ------------------------------

    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    ---- ------------- -------------

    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    ------------------------------

    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    -----------------------------

    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
  • AOD
    AlliB: One needs assault weapons because…..??

    AIIiB, I will do my best to answer this question because it is asked a lot.

    "The most foolish mistake we would possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquers who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing."

    This reason, told by Hitler himself, AIIiB, is why one needs assault weapons.


    In addition to this, see these examples:

    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    ------------------------------

    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    ------------------------------

    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated.

    ------------------------------

    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

    ------------------------------

    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    ---- ------------- -------------

    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    ------------------------------

    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    -----------------------------

    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.
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  • Kenneth
    You and I Can't Buy the Guns Mexican Cartels Own


    http://www.gunnewsdaily.com/rw807.html
  • Kenneth
    You and I Can't Buy the Guns Mexican Cartels Own


    http://www.gunnewsdaily.com/rw807.html
  • Kenneth
    You can't buy fully automatic assault rifles, grenades and RPGs at gun stores!


    I bet the drug cartels are getting their weapons from the mexican military, you know the one with 150000 desertions in the past 6 years!
  • Kenneth
    You can't buy fully automatic assault rifles, grenades and RPGs at gun stores!


    I bet the drug cartels are getting their weapons from the mexican military, you know the one with 150000 desertions in the past 6 years!
  • margaret
    Has anyone ever thought the reason the fear was put out there about Obama taking away guns was the Gun Dealers and the makers of Ammo started it to sell more guns and ammo to make MONEY. based off created fear. When someone buries $4,000 dollars worth of ammo in their yard . Then I worry about the stability of that person. Are they setting themselves up for a civil war in this country. VERY SAD if you think you need to have that much in your possesion in order to live in this country.... The mexican government is complaining about the assault weopons coming into Mexico and the drug cartel it using them against their police. Sounds to me like Iraq where the insurgents were smuggling weopons from Iran. and we were outraged. But Mexico shouldn't be... I hope someone doesn't break into the homes with all this weopondry and send it to Mexico or to commit crimes here in the US.
  • margaret2
    Has anyone ever thought the reason the fear was put out there about Obama taking away guns was the Gun Dealers and the makers of Ammo started it to sell more guns and ammo to make MONEY. based off created fear. When someone buries $4,000 dollars worth of ammo in their yard . Then I worry about the stability of that person. Are they setting themselves up for a civil war in this country. VERY SAD if you think you need to have that much in your possesion in order to live in this country.... The mexican government is complaining about the assault weopons coming into Mexico and the drug cartel it using them against their police. Sounds to me like Iraq where the insurgents were smuggling weopons from Iran. and we were outraged. But Mexico shouldn't be... I hope someone doesn't break into the homes with all this weopondry and send it to Mexico or to commit crimes here in the US.
  • Kenneth
    REAL FULLY AUTOMATIC RIFLES ARE PRACIAILLY ILLEGAL!!

    "ASSAULT WEAPONS" ARE JUST SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLES WITH A SCARY APPERANCE!!

    THERES NO DIFFERNACE BETWEEN A SEMI-AUTOMATIC HUNTING RIFLE AND A SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT LOOKS LIKE AN ASSAULT RIFLE, EXCEPT THE HUNTING RIFLE WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE POWERFUL!!


    Watch this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysf8x477c30


    Part of the video it shows him take a Mini-14 with a wooden hunting-style stock, put a scary black plastic stock with a pistol grip and bipod on it. Nows it an assault weapon because it looks scary!
  • Kenneth
    REAL FULLY AUTOMATIC RIFLES ARE PRACIAILLY ILLEGAL!!

    "ASSAULT WEAPONS" ARE JUST SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLES WITH A SCARY APPERANCE!!

    THERES NO DIFFERNACE BETWEEN A SEMI-AUTOMATIC HUNTING RIFLE AND A SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLE THAT LOOKS LIKE AN ASSAULT RIFLE, EXCEPT THE HUNTING RIFLE WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE POWERFUL!!


    Watch this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysf8x477c30


    Part of the video it shows him take a Mini-14 with a wooden hunting-style stock, put a scary black plastic stock with a pistol grip and bipod on it. Nows it an assault weapon because it looks scary!
  • Mo Rage
    this kid was at least badly, deeply, severely misinformed and/or not well. that's why he could believe things that aren't true.
  • this kid was at least badly, deeply, severely misinformed and/or not well. that's why he could believe things that aren't true.
  • Lucius Fieldon
    I think it's really pitiful that white America is in such an uproar about something that has NEVER been brought up by the President of the United States, white America is going coo-coo crazy over a ban on guns that Obama has NEVER said he would do. I wonder how much time this man spent listening to the hatemongers on right wing radio?
  • Lucius Fieldon
    I think it's really pitiful that white America is in such an uproar about something that has NEVER been brought up by the President of the United States, white America is going coo-coo crazy over a ban on guns that Obama has NEVER said he would do. I wonder how much time this man spent listening to the hatemongers on right wing radio?
  • ecthompson
    TP -

    I'm glad that I moved you to comment.

    Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
  • TP -

    I'm glad that I moved you to comment.

    Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
  • ecthompson
    s burgher -

    I'm not from Pittsburgh or from Oakland. Yet, I'm extremely depressed over the senseless loss of life.

    Thanks for your comments.
  • s burgher -

    I'm not from Pittsburgh or from Oakland. Yet, I'm extremely depressed over the senseless loss of life.

    Thanks for your comments.
  • Guys -

    Guns laws isn't the same as taking all of your guns. There is a difference.
  • ecthompson
    Guys -

    Guns laws isn't the same as taking all of your guns. There is a difference.
  • s burgher
    As a Pittsburgher, my heart is broken by this senseless act of violence. Explain to me why we let people buy assault rifles and amo that is used in warfare. . . to protect who's constitutional rights? This is not what our founding fathers had in mind in the 1700s. My rights and everyone elses touched by violence is violated each time someone go's crazy and shoots up innocent people. Where's my right to pursue happiness? My kids don't even react anymore when they have a lockdown in school. or hear about a shooting. It's a common occurance in this crazy world. And that is wrong. We need common sense gun laws.
  • s burgher
    As a Pittsburgher, my heart is broken by this senseless act of violence. Explain to me why we let people buy assault rifles and amo that is used in warfare. . . to protect who's constitutional rights? This is not what our founding fathers had in mind in the 1700s. My rights and everyone elses touched by violence is violated each time someone go's crazy and shoots up innocent people. Where's my right to pursue happiness? My kids don't even react anymore when they have a lockdown in school. or hear about a shooting. It's a common occurance in this crazy world. And that is wrong. We need common sense gun laws.
  • Kenneth
    AlliB, there is no differance between an "assault weapon" and any other non-automatic weapon except for cosmetic features. The AWB banned cosmetic features on SEMI-automatic weapons, not to be confused with fully automatic weapons which have been heavily regulated since 1934 and no new ones have been made for civilians since 1986)


    Look at this screenshot from Democratic Underground that I took today:

    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Lava_hornet/untitled.jpg?t=1238974839
  • Kenneth
    AlliB, there is no differance between an "assault weapon" and any other non-automatic weapon except for cosmetic features. The AWB banned cosmetic features on SEMI-automatic weapons, not to be confused with fully automatic weapons which have been heavily regulated since 1934 and no new ones have been made for civilians since 1986)


    Look at this screenshot from Democratic Underground that I took today:

    http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Lava_hornet/untitled.jpg?t=1238974839
  • First of all this moron shot up some cops because they came to remove him from his mother's house as she was kicking him out. He didn't lure them there because of the so called conspiracy theories he believed in.

    Second, while BHU hasn't said he plans any new gun laws, such laws have been introduced to the House and have the support of Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, and Eric Holder. So, its really not a "conspiracy theory" for anyone to believe that some firearms might be outlawed.

    Third, and so far NONE of the media are picking this up, Mr. Poplawski was apparently already a "prohibited person" for the purposes of Federal law. He was reportedly dishonorably discharged from the military, and that bars him from owning guns. He also had a restraining order against him for his previous acts of domestic violence, and that also barred his gun ownership.
  • Thebes
    First of all this moron shot up some cops because they came to remove him from his mother's house as she was kicking him out. He didn't lure them there because of the so called conspiracy theories he believed in.

    Second, while BHU hasn't said he plans any new gun laws, such laws have been introduced to the House and have the support of Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, and Eric Holder. So, its really not a "conspiracy theory" for anyone to believe that some firearms might be outlawed.

    Third, and so far NONE of the media are picking this up, Mr. Poplawski was apparently already a "prohibited person" for the purposes of Federal law. He was reportedly dishonorably discharged from the military, and that bars him from owning guns. He also had a restraining order against him for his previous acts of domestic violence, and that also barred his gun ownership.
  • AlliB
    One needs assault weapons because.....??
  • AlliB
    One needs assault weapons because.....??
  • Thunder Pig
    I read your blog everyday, just can't comment everyday...it would get old if I tried to counter you every time I disagreed.

    I listened to Jim Quinn, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity rail against Bush's profligate spending plans for eight years.

    As to the Tea parties...a lot of the technology and social networking sites to put together a coordinated plan for ten rounds of rallies has only come into place in the past year or so. People without technical skills can now participate in these communities without having to learn HTML or navigate complicated navigational menus.

    I've tried to establish online communities since 2005, but have only met with success (i.e., people actually joining) in the past 12 months...and especially after November.

    I hope it isn't too late to stop Obama and the Democratically-controlled Congress, and that we can replace them with conservatives, not just Republicans.

    Of course, if we keep nominating idiots like Mccain, you guys will have an easy time of it... ;-p
  • I read your blog everyday, just can't comment everyday...it would get old if I tried to counter you every time I disagreed.

    I listened to Jim Quinn, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity rail against Bush's profligate spending plans for eight years.

    As to the Tea parties...a lot of the technology and social networking sites to put together a coordinated plan for ten rounds of rallies has only come into place in the past year or so. People without technical skills can now participate in these communities without having to learn HTML or navigate complicated navigational menus.

    I've tried to establish online communities since 2005, but have only met with success (i.e., people actually joining) in the past 12 months...and especially after November.

    I hope it isn't too late to stop Obama and the Democratically-controlled Congress, and that we can replace them with conservatives, not just Republicans.

    Of course, if we keep nominating idiots like Mccain, you guys will have an easy time of it... ;-p
  • Tony Belding
    I just have to point out. . . Obama did, in fact, post on his website during the campaign that he wants to bring back the hated Assault Weapons Ban (i.e. Clinton Gun Ban). That's no right-wing fantasy, it was there for the world to see. Since then Obama's appointed Attorney General, Eric Holder, has come out publicly and said the same thing: that they still intend to bring back the AWB law.

    In practical terms the AWB was little more than a nuisance. What really got gun owners riled was the complex and arbitrary, senseless and useless nature of that law. Nobody likes to be jerked around, and the only accomplishment of the AWB was to jerk gun owners around for ten years. For someone advocating "common sense gun laws", the AWB was about as far away from any kind of common sense as it's possible to get.
  • Tony Belding
    I just have to point out. . . Obama did, in fact, post on his website during the campaign that he wants to bring back the hated Assault Weapons Ban (i.e. Clinton Gun Ban). That's no right-wing fantasy, it was there for the world to see. Since then Obama's appointed Attorney General, Eric Holder, has come out publicly and said the same thing: that they still intend to bring back the AWB law.

    In practical terms the AWB was little more than a nuisance. What really got gun owners riled was the complex and arbitrary, senseless and useless nature of that law. Nobody likes to be jerked around, and the only accomplishment of the AWB was to jerk gun owners around for ten years. For someone advocating "common sense gun laws", the AWB was about as far away from any kind of common sense as it's possible to get.
  • ecthompson
    TP -

    Long time no hear. I see that you are well.

    What was the point in buying 4000 rounds? Why? Really? You are right this guy was a nut job but what evidence is there that Dems (and Obama specifically) is in favor of taking away the right to own a gun?

    I won't even get into the craziness that is the Tea Party. George Bush doubles the national debt in 8 years yet Republicans weren't having a Tea Party then Why? When George Bush lied to the American public and said that his tax cuts would pay for themselves (tax cuts have never paid for themselves) where was this Republican outrage?. When he said there was more than enough surplus to pay for the tax cuts where was the Tea Party then? This is simply republicans taking advantage of Americans who are pissed off at Wall Street for screwing them. These Americans need an outlet and the Tea party is simply that.

    Finally, what I condemn are those who push these falsehoods expect there to be no consequences.

    Thanks for your comments.
  • TP -

    Long time no hear. I see that you are well.

    What was the point in buying 4000 rounds? Why? Really? You are right this guy was a nut job but what evidence is there that Dems (and Obama specifically) is in favor of taking away the right to own a gun?

    I won't even get into the craziness that is the Tea Party. George Bush doubles the national debt in 8 years yet Republicans weren't having a Tea Party then Why? When George Bush lied to the American public and said that his tax cuts would pay for themselves (tax cuts have never paid for themselves) where was this Republican outrage?. When he said there was more than enough surplus to pay for the tax cuts where was the Tea Party then? This is simply republicans taking advantage of Americans who are pissed off at Wall Street for screwing them. These Americans need an outlet and the Tea party is simply that.

    Finally, what I condemn are those who push these falsehoods expect there to be no consequences.

    Thanks for your comments.
  • Thunder Pig
    Nice job trying to paint a whole movement through the actions of a nut. Strawmen do not make an argument.

    I have purchased over $4,000 worth of ammo (most of it military spec) since last September (when it became clear that Obama would win) and have buried most of it against future need for plinking or in defense of my rights. I know of at least a dozen others locally doing the same thing, and none of us have gone on shooting sprees, nor have the millions of others doing the same sort of thing nationwide. People are voting with their money and picking up a little extra ammo or purchasing reloading kits, and learning how to make their own ammo.

    The National Tea Party Movement is another reaction to Obama and his spendthrift friends in the US Congress. You are witnessing the beginning of a transpartisan movement, you should check out a Tea party near you on April 15th. We estimate at least 300 to be attending our Tea Party in Franklin. How many will be at Asheville's Tea Party?

    Do not judge millions of us by the actions of the occasional nut.

    We are merely keeping our powder dry...
  • Nice job trying to paint a whole movement through the actions of a nut. Strawmen do not make an argument.

    I have purchased over $4,000 worth of ammo (most of it military spec) since last September (when it became clear that Obama would win) and have buried most of it against future need for plinking or in defense of my rights. I know of at least a dozen others locally doing the same thing, and none of us have gone on shooting sprees, nor have the millions of others doing the same sort of thing nationwide. People are voting with their money and picking up a little extra ammo or purchasing reloading kits, and learning how to make their own ammo.

    The National Tea Party Movement is another reaction to Obama and his spendthrift friends in the US Congress. You are witnessing the beginning of a transpartisan movement, you should check out a Tea party near you on April 15th. We estimate at least 300 to be attending our Tea Party in Franklin. How many will be at Asheville's Tea Party?

    Do not judge millions of us by the actions of the occasional nut.

    We are merely keeping our powder dry...
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