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	<title>Comments on: Serious Heathcare Reform &#8211; Industry Pledges $2 Trillion in Cuts</title>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 01:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been waffling on a single payer.  More and more, I see that is the way to go but I don&#039;t know how to keep politics out of medicine with a single payer.  Politics clouds everything these days.  There was a time that you could get something done in Washington without everyone taking sides.  Now, everything is a tug-of-war.

Thanks for the comment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been waffling on a single payer.  More and more, I see that is the way to go but I don&#8217;t know how to keep politics out of medicine with a single payer.  Politics clouds everything these days.  There was a time that you could get something done in Washington without everyone taking sides.  Now, everything is a tug-of-war.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment</p>
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		<title>By: hope4health</title>
		<link>http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2009/05/11/serious-heathcare-reform-industry-pledges-2-trillion-in-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-59904</link>
		<dc:creator>hope4health</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 20:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new study shows that SINGLE-PAYER HEALTHCARE REFORM WOULD BE A MAJOR STIMULUS FOR THE US ECONOMY and would provide: 

**  2.6 Million New Jobs, 
**  $317 Billion in Business Revenue, 
**  $100 Billion in Wages, and 
**  $44 Billion New Tax Revenues 


The press release is here: http://www.calnurses.org/media-center/press-releases/2009/january/nurses-to-congress-expanding-medicare-could-reverse-job-losses-and-repair-our-broken-healthcare-system-and-safety-net.html 

Here’s the study: http://www.calnurses.org/research/pdfs/ihsp_sp_economic_study_2009.pdf

It’s clear that single-payer is the solution, not only in terms of providing quality care for all, but also economically!

&lt;b&gt;WHY ISN’T SINGLE-PAYER ON THE TABLE?&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new study shows that SINGLE-PAYER HEALTHCARE REFORM WOULD BE A MAJOR STIMULUS FOR THE US ECONOMY and would provide: </p>
<p>**  2.6 Million New Jobs,<br />
**  $317 Billion in Business Revenue,<br />
**  $100 Billion in Wages, and<br />
**  $44 Billion New Tax Revenues </p>
<p>The press release is here: <a href="http://www.calnurses.org/media-center/press-releases/2009/january/nurses-to-congress-expanding-medicare-could-reverse-job-losses-and-repair-our-broken-healthcare-system-and-safety-net.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.calnurses.org/media-center/press-releases/2009/january/nurses-to-congress-expanding-medicare-could-reverse-job-losses-and-repair-our-broken-healthcare-system-and-safety-net.html</a> </p>
<p>Here’s the study: <a href="http://www.calnurses.org/research/pdfs/ihsp_sp_economic_study_2009.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.calnurses.org/research/pdfs/ihsp_sp_economic_study_2009.pdf</a></p>
<p>It’s clear that single-payer is the solution, not only in terms of providing quality care for all, but also economically!</p>
<p><b>WHY ISN’T SINGLE-PAYER ON THE TABLE?</b></p>
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		<title>By: hope4health</title>
		<link>http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2009/05/11/serious-heathcare-reform-industry-pledges-2-trillion-in-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-59903</link>
		<dc:creator>hope4health</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 20:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE LATEST FIGURES: 

The health insurance companies have played a major role in our current healthcare crisis.  They make huge profits and their CEOs make millions, while the rest of us are are subject to life-threatening insurance denials.  The CEOs continue to make outrageous salaries, money that could provide healthcare for Americans.

&lt;b&gt;The Total Package: Health plan CEO compensation for 2008&lt;/b&gt;
May 14, 2009 

Despite the trials and tribulations of the past year, the health insurance executives are still raking in MILLIONS of dollars at the end of the day. This is a look at some of the top total compensation packages from 2008 based on information gathered from the U.S. Security and Exchange Commission.

1. Ron Williams, Aetna - $24.3 million

2. H. Edward Hanway, CIGNA - $12.2 million

3. Angela Braly, WellPoint - $9.8 million

4. Dale Wolf, Coventry Health Care - $9 million

5. Michael Neidorff, Centene - $8.8 million

6. James Carlson, AMERIGROUP - $5.3 million

7. Michael McCallister, Humana - $4.8 million

8. Jay Gellert, Health Net - $4.4 million

9. Richard Barasch, Universal American - $3.5 million

10. Stephen Hemsley, UnitedHealth Group - $3.2 million

– adapted from a Special Report by Dan Bowman
http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/special-reports/total-package-health-plan-ceo-compensations-2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE LATEST FIGURES: </p>
<p>The health insurance companies have played a major role in our current healthcare crisis.  They make huge profits and their CEOs make millions, while the rest of us are are subject to life-threatening insurance denials.  The CEOs continue to make outrageous salaries, money that could provide healthcare for Americans.</p>
<p><b>The Total Package: Health plan CEO compensation for 2008</b><br />
May 14, 2009 </p>
<p>Despite the trials and tribulations of the past year, the health insurance executives are still raking in MILLIONS of dollars at the end of the day. This is a look at some of the top total compensation packages from 2008 based on information gathered from the U.S. Security and Exchange Commission.</p>
<p>1. Ron Williams, Aetna &#8211; $24.3 million</p>
<p>2. H. Edward Hanway, CIGNA &#8211; $12.2 million</p>
<p>3. Angela Braly, WellPoint &#8211; $9.8 million</p>
<p>4. Dale Wolf, Coventry Health Care &#8211; $9 million</p>
<p>5. Michael Neidorff, Centene &#8211; $8.8 million</p>
<p>6. James Carlson, AMERIGROUP &#8211; $5.3 million</p>
<p>7. Michael McCallister, Humana &#8211; $4.8 million</p>
<p>8. Jay Gellert, Health Net &#8211; $4.4 million</p>
<p>9. Richard Barasch, Universal American &#8211; $3.5 million</p>
<p>10. Stephen Hemsley, UnitedHealth Group &#8211; $3.2 million</p>
<p>– adapted from a Special Report by Dan Bowman<br />
<a href="http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/special-reports/total-package-health-plan-ceo-compensations-2008" rel="nofollow">http://www.fiercehealthcare.com/special-reports/total-package-health-plan-ceo-compensations-2008</a></p>
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		<title>By: hope4health</title>
		<link>http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2009/05/11/serious-heathcare-reform-industry-pledges-2-trillion-in-cuts/comment-page-1/#comment-59902</link>
		<dc:creator>hope4health</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 20:34:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY HAS TAKEN BACK THEIR ‘PROMISE’ TO CONTROL COSTS.  It would affect their profits.  .   . 

Read about it here: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/health/policy/15health.html?_r=2&amp;partner=rssnyt&amp;emc=rss

It’s what we’ve known all along: we can&#039;t trust the insurance industry with health care reform.

Only a single-payer approach to healthcare reform will end the inhumanity of our failed healthcare insurance system, where &lt;i&gt;profits are more important than patients’ health, and where people die because of it.&lt;/i&gt;

Our fight for equal access to healthcare for all is about democracy, human rights, civil rights, and basic human decency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY HAS TAKEN BACK THEIR ‘PROMISE’ TO CONTROL COSTS.  It would affect their profits.  .   . </p>
<p>Read about it here: <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/health/policy/15health.html?_r=2&#038;partner=rssnyt&#038;emc=rss" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/health/policy/15health.html?_r=2&#038;partner=rssnyt&#038;emc=rss</a></p>
<p>It’s what we’ve known all along: we can&#8217;t trust the insurance industry with health care reform.</p>
<p>Only a single-payer approach to healthcare reform will end the inhumanity of our failed healthcare insurance system, where <i>profits are more important than patients’ health, and where people die because of it.</i></p>
<p>Our fight for equal access to healthcare for all is about democracy, human rights, civil rights, and basic human decency.</p>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 11:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lib - 

No scumbags in healthcare.  I couldn&#039;t agree more.  

the question is how.  How do we get that done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lib &#8211; </p>
<p>No scumbags in healthcare.  I couldn&#8217;t agree more.  </p>
<p>the question is how.  How do we get that done?</p>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 11:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TCB - 

You and I both know folks who practice in Canada.  Are they poorly trained?  When you look at cohorts of patients, do the patients do worse in Canada or Great Britain?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TCB &#8211; </p>
<p>You and I both know folks who practice in Canada.  Are they poorly trained?  When you look at cohorts of patients, do the patients do worse in Canada or Great Britain?</p>
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		<title>By: libhomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>libhomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 04:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is sickening.  We all know that the HMOs and insurance companies will take the cuts out of the hides of patients, many of whom will have potentially deadly illnesses.  That&#039;s how they operate.

This is why we need single payer healthcare now.  We need to put those scumbags out of business permanently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is sickening.  We all know that the HMOs and insurance companies will take the cuts out of the hides of patients, many of whom will have potentially deadly illnesses.  That&#8217;s how they operate.</p>
<p>This is why we need single payer healthcare now.  We need to put those scumbags out of business permanently.</p>
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		<title>By: TCB</title>
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		<dc:creator>TCB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 03:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better care...like Britain and Canada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better care&#8230;like Britain and Canada.</p>
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		<title>By: single payer now</title>
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		<dc:creator>single payer now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 22:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s more than that.  Where are these &quot;savings&quot; coming from?  They have basically pledged to stop bilking the sick and the female.  They admitted to charging more to these groups and have simply said &quot;we&#039;ll stop being total d*cks now.&quot;

And why?  Because they figure if new laws require people to buy insurance then their customer bases go way up and they can spread the risk better and not &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; to charge the sick and the female more.

Of course THIS is the exact reason why SINGLE PAYER insurance is the real solution!  If the risk pool is the entirety of the United States population, then prices drop for EVERYONE and we all get better and more care because it would be not for profit.

This altruism (which as pointed out is unenforceable) is all an effort to quell the move towards Single Payer but in the end makes the best argument for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s more than that.  Where are these &#8220;savings&#8221; coming from?  They have basically pledged to stop bilking the sick and the female.  They admitted to charging more to these groups and have simply said &#8220;we&#8217;ll stop being total d*cks now.&#8221;</p>
<p>And why?  Because they figure if new laws require people to buy insurance then their customer bases go way up and they can spread the risk better and not <em>have</em> to charge the sick and the female more.</p>
<p>Of course THIS is the exact reason why SINGLE PAYER insurance is the real solution!  If the risk pool is the entirety of the United States population, then prices drop for EVERYONE and we all get better and more care because it would be not for profit.</p>
<p>This altruism (which as pointed out is unenforceable) is all an effort to quell the move towards Single Payer but in the end makes the best argument for it.</p>
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