Comments on: Liz Cheney defends torture, again

By: Where’s the Outrage? » More Newt - Why?

Where’s the Outrage? » More Newt - Why? — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 09:49:18 +0000

[...] was voted out of office. What could he have to say that would be of some importance? Why does Liz Cheney keep popping up on my screen? Don’t we know what she is going to say before she says it? [...]

By: ecthompson

ecthompson — Fri, 15 May 2009 11:19:35 +0000

TCB –

I’m not appealing to Jesse. As I mentioned he is a odd fellow.

For over 100 years, we, the US people has agreed that Waterboarding in torture. 9/11 hasn’t changed our definition.

Maybe torture is like porn, Supreme Court Justice Marshall said that he can’t define it but he knows it when he sees it. Waterboarding is torture. This is clear.

More later.

By: TCB

TCB — Fri, 15 May 2009 05:39:23 +0000

ECT: I’m not sure what your point is. Waterboarding. Drowning. I think that would and has fit into mental pain or suffering.

My point is that you assert that water boarding, walling (throwing someone against a wall?) and stress positions are “clearly torture.”

I’m saying that is not so clear.

If you need to appeal to an authority like Jesse Ventura then it must not be so clear.

Moreover, you seem unwilling to follow your own definition. You state that water boarding involves mental suffering. I agree but your definition states that torture is SEVERE suffering or pain.

Prison surely involves mental suffering but most wouldn’t consider it torture. Being audited by the IRS involves mental suffering .

By: ecthompson

ecthompson — Thu, 14 May 2009 10:57:22 +0000

N Waff-

As I have studied politics over the last 4 – 5 years, I find Schumer to an awful type of politician. He is a all smiles on one hand then what the heck is he doing with the other hand. Schumer is the one that pushed the last attorney general – Mulkasey on us. Schumer isn’t really progressive. He isn’t really liberal.

Why do we have him in the Senate again?

By: N Waff

N Waff — Thu, 14 May 2009 03:34:34 +0000

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CHUCK SCHUMER SUPPORTS TORTURE
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When is he going to come out of the closet and defend his words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4CWk5LfoH0

By: ecthompson

ecthompson — Thu, 14 May 2009 01:36:28 +0000

Sean –

What inhumane treatment are you talking about? Are you talking about the network executives subjecting the American public to Liz Cheney? (Tongue-in-cheek)

Of course, you’re exactly right. Techniques that the US has outlawed for nearly 100 years were used against Al Qaeda. It simply wrong. No matter how you look at it, it was simply wrong.

By: Sean

Sean — Thu, 14 May 2009 01:25:26 +0000

Liz Cheney used a ridiculous example to prove that water boarding is not torture. She said that water boarding is not torture since the U.S. Military water boards troops. What she fails to understand or acknowledge is that the water boarding that the troops go through is part of their training. They do not think that they are going to die, like tortured detainees do.

I do not understand how they continue to try to justify this inhumane treatment.

By: nader paul kucinich gravel

nader paul kucinich gravel — Thu, 14 May 2009 00:55:54 +0000

Cheney Puppet Liz invokes the 911 lie talking point.

Family sociopaths for profit.

Bulls on Parade ~

By: ecthompson

ecthompson — Wed, 13 May 2009 11:36:05 +0000

TCB –

I’m not sure what your point is. Waterboarding. Drowning. I think that would and has fit into mental pain or suffering. The US government has classified waterboarding as torture since 1903, if I’m not mistaken. We have tried people in this country for waterboarding. We have sent them to prison.

From experiments in the 1950′s we know that you can breakdown a man’s mind with just isolation. No sensation at all for 48 hours. You know this. This is mental suffering. The Russians found that self-inflicted pain could cause a man to breakdown in less than 48 hours. If you make a man stand for 48 hours he will breakdown.

Torture doesn’t have to be pulling out fingernails. This is psychological torture.

Thanks for your thoughts.

By: TCB

TCB — Wed, 13 May 2009 04:27:37 +0000

Assertion is not proof

ECT: Waterboarding, Walling, stress positions are all clearly torture.
ECT: TORTURE…severe physical or mental pain or suffering

Electrodes strapped to the genitals or for that matter anything electric, CLEARLY, SEVERELY PAINFUL; CLEARLY TORTURE.

Kneecapping, CLEARLY, SEVERELY PAINFUL; CLEARLY TORTURE.

Slicing your skin off with a razor and pouring salt over the wounds, CLEARLY, SEVERELY PAINFUL; CLEARLY TORTURE.

Pulling teeth without anesthesia, CLEARLY , SEVERELY PAINFUL; CLEARLY TORTURE.

Is waterboarding, walling and stress positions CLEARLY, SEVERELY painful?