Combat Birther Craziness! (Updated)

On one hand, you might feel as though you have to say something. On the other hand, though, sadly, you know it is futile. It’s like arguing with one of those folks who don’t believe that we landed on the moon or those who believe that we attacked ourselves on 9/11. There is no amount of evidence that will convince them that they are wrong.

I have gone out of my way to stay away from this craziness. This is the way that the conservatives have worked for over 40 years. It’s the Nixon playbook. If you can’t beat them on the facts… throw crap. This distracts the public and whips up the base, which seems to be exactly what they always want to do.

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Now even the conservative WorldNetDaily is backing away from the surprise birth certificate that some birthers are pushing. Here is the birth certificate that is supposed to be Barack Obama’s and it is supposed to be Kenyan. Here is a real birth certificate (part 1 and part 2)from the same time period from Kenya.

From Salon.com:

There are, sadly, a lot of Birthers out there. A recent poll showed that 11 percent of Americans — including 28 percent of Republicans — don’t believe President Obama was born in the U.S. Another 12 percent aren’t sure.

So, at some point, you’re likely to find out that a friend or relative is a Birther. Your Uncle Floyd will forward you a chain e-mail that says Obama was actually born in Kenya and there’s a Kenyan birth certificate that proves it and hundreds of government officials and reporters are in on a conspiracy to hide the truth of his ineligibility for the presidency from the public. And you will wonder: How can I possibly deal with all the falsehoods in this e-mail without disappearing down a rabbit hole?

Well, wonder no more. In the spirit of public service, Salon has compiled this list of the most popular Birther myths, along with all the debunking you could ever ask for. Now you can just  e-mail this list to Uncle Floyd and get on with your life.

Unfortunately, there is some small print involved in this offer. We can’t promise this article will convince Uncle Floyd that Obama was born in the U.S. and is the legitimate president. In fact, we can just about guarantee that it won’t have much effect at all. That’s just the way conspiracy theories work: Believers are unlikely to change their minds, no matter how much evidence you present.

Still, it’s worth a try.

Myth 1: Obama wasn’t born in the U.S.

This is the big one. It may also be the most easily refuted. First of all, during the presidential campaign, Obama released a certification of live birth, which is the official document you get if you ask Hawaii for a copy of your birth certificate. There are allegations that what Obama released is a forgery, but state officials have repeatedly affirmed its authenticity and said they’ve checked it against the original record and that Obama was indeed born in Hawaii.

If that wasn’t enough, two Hawaiian newspapers carried announcements of Obama’s birth in August 1961. (Read the Honolulu Advertiser’s item from Aug. 13, 1961, nine days after Obama’s birth, here.) The traditional joke that Birther debunkers make is that his grandparents must have placed those announcements because they knew that he’d want to run for president nearly five decades later. The truth, though, is that the notices are even stronger pieces of evidence than that. Obama’s family didn’t place them — Hawaii did, as it does for all births. The announcements were based on official records sent to the papers by the state’s Department of Health.

Myth 2: Obama can’t be president because his father was a British citizen

Some of the Birthers — like de facto leader Orly Taitz — believe that Obama wouldn’t be eligible for the presidency even if he were born in the U.S. That’s because, in their infinite wisdom, the Founding Fathers included in the Constitution a fair amount of phrases they never really bothered to define. One of those is this explanation of who can be president: ”No person except a natural born citizen.”

The Supreme Court has never ruled directly on the question of what “natural born citizen” means. So the Birthers have simply settled on their own definition — someone born to two citizen parents — and found a source,”The Law of Nations,” a 1758 book by the Swiss philosopher Emerich de Vattel, to back them up.

There are a couple of problems with this. Most important, Obama isn’t the first president with a non-citizen parent: Chester A. Arthur, the 21st president, was. His father was from Ireland and apparently did not become a U.S. citizen until more than 10 years after the future president’s birth.

Plus, even if the Founding Fathers did rely on Vattel as much as the Birthers say — always a dubious proposition — Swiss philosophy books aren’t legal precedent in the United States. British common law is. And in 1898, in the case of U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, the Supreme Court looked into the meaning of “natural born” in the common law and concluded that a non-citizen’s mere presence in the U.S. is enough to make their child, if born here, a natural-born citizen.

Myth 3: A Kenyan birth certificate for Obama, showing he was born in Mombasa, has been discovered

It’s a hoax. Once Taitz released the document, purportedly a certified copy of a Kenyan birth certificate, it took less than two days for Internet sleuths to prove that it had been forged.

The first signs were a couple of small but revealing errors: The certification is dated Feb. 17, 1964, when newly independent Kenya was known as the Dominion of Kenya. It wouldn’t start calling itself the Republic of Kenya until December of that year — but the document refers to the republic. Additionally, the document’s header refers to “Coast Province,” but as two British professors who are experts in Kenyan history pointed out to Salon, at the time the certificate was supposedly produced, the country’s provinces were referred to as regions.

For the final nail in this myth’s coffin, one particularly enterprising man, Steve Eddy, located the original Australian document on which the Kenyan certificate was apparently based. The two documents share several identical numbers, including the page and the book of records in which they can be found, and minor changes were made to the names of the registrars responsible for the Australian copy. Taitz claims the Australian certificate “was created to try to discredit my efforts” but it was in fact available on the Internet as far back as 2007.

Myth 4: Obama’s grandmother said he was born in Kenya

There’s a kernel of truth to this one. In an interview with a street preacher named Ron McRae, Sarah Obama, the second wife of the president’s grandfather, did say she was there, in Kenya, for her grandson’s birth.

Unfortunately for the Birthers, it was the result of a miscommunication — or perhaps a mistranslation — and as soon as McRae started pressing the issue, Obama’s family realized what had happened and corrected him. Most Birthers simply ignore the corrections, excising them from audio and transcripts of the conversation posted online. McRae just believes it’s part of the conspiracy and that Obama’s younger relatives were coached to hide the truth.

The full audio can be downloaded here. What follows is a transcript of the relevant portion of the interview:

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was born in Kenya?

TRANSLATOR: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

TRANSLATOR: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

TRANSLATOR: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

TRANSLATOR: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.

Myth 5: Hawaii allows parents to get birth certificates for their foreign-born children

This one is actually true — just not in the way the Birthers think. Here’s their position, as outlined by World Net Daily, a conservative news site that’s become the unofficial Birther Web headquarters: ”The ‘Certification of Live Birth’ posted online and widely touted as ‘Obama’s birth certificate’ does not in any way prove he was born in Hawaii, since the same ‘short-form’ document is easily obtainable for children not born in Hawaii.”

Children not born in Hawaii can get a birth document from the state. But it won’t say they were born in Hawaii, as Obama’s does.

“If you were born in Bali, for example, you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali,” Janice Okubo, the director of communications for the state Department of Health, told the Washington Independent’s David Weigel recently. “You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate.” (more… )

  • patricia

    Here is what I need resolved:
    1. What is age and residency requirement for the child of a citizen mom, born outside the US? I understand that she had to be a US Citizen for 5 years (after age 14). Since he was born when she was 18, her out-of-country born son would not be a citizen unless the father was as well. Apparently this was a Hawaii law.
    2. Why was his mom with him in Seattle only days after his birth? Seattle is a stop-over on trips from Kenya because those flights go: Kenya to Vancouver then ground transportation to Seattle then fly to Hawaii. Maybe they were on their way TO Kenya…either way this needs to be explained.
    3. Did he apply for Foreign Student aid as an Indonesian while at Occidental?
    4. What passport did he use to travel to Pakistan in 1980 when US travelers were not allowed there? His Indonesian one?
    5. Hawaii newspapers admit they get their Birth and Death announcements from the Dept of Health/county Records filings. We all know his mom got him a Certificate of Birth after he was born. Babies born outside of the country are allowed to have their birth certified with such a certificate, which is not the same as certification that he is born in the US.
    6. Why does his birth certificate posted on FactCheck.org say it was issued on his date of birth…that is odd…most mothers don’t race to the county on the day a baby is born. Certificates of other babies actually born in Hawaii have BC’s issued up to a week and month later. Few if any had it issued on the day of the birth.
    7. Who was his obstetrician? Just find him/her and get them to produce the medical records.

    Okay…thanks for reading…just answer these issues and this will go away…People are not discussing the same issues/facts at this point. There is just alot of name calling and arguments that do not address the facts being disputed.

  • http://www.whereistheoutrage.net ecthompson

    Let’s start backward –

    7. I don’t know. It was common practice for Obs NOT to keep great records especially when delivering minority babies. If we play the odds, then the Ob would have been in his late 30′s or early 40′s when Barack was born. He would be in his early 80′s to 90′s if he is still alive. This line of reasoning is crazy. I have delivered well over 1500 babies. I don’t remember any one of them individually. Not one.
    6. I don’t know the procedures in Hawaii. Most of the time, all the mother has to do is give the nurse the baby’s name and the hospital fills out everything else. Then the mother has to sign. All of the rest of the paperwork is done by the hospital.
    5. As the Salon article notes, Hawaii will issue a birth certificate STATING that you were born in another country.
    4. Unclear what this has to do with a BC.
    3. Again, what does this have to do with his BC?
    2. I’m sorry, I have no idea what this has to do with anything. BTW, what did your mother do 3 – 7 days after you were born? Can you explain that? Who knows and why does this matter? It doesn’t. You are focusing on things that have no baring on the BC. If the BC is correct, then who cares why she was in Fort Worth or Buffalo or Miami?

    1. I’m sure that you can simply look this up on Hawaii’s state web site. But the fact remains that the State of Hawaii has certified Obama’s Live Birth certificate as being real. So, you are left with only 2 options – the governor and director of vital stats in Hawaii are lying OR the certificate is indeed real. The rest of the questions have no baring on anything. Why would a Republican governor lie for a Democrat?

    This issue will never go away. It is laughable that you would say that it would. You will always have questions because everyone’s record of their past is never perfectly complete. Memories are never perfect. Especially when some of the parties are too young to remember. There will always be something that doesn’t fit perfectly and people like you will want to keep digging. Hey, while you are digging, can you find out Bush’s National Guard record for me? Now, here is a place where you have an institution that is supposed to keep track of their soldiers. That’s what they do yet, Bush’s record is incomplete – why?

    Thanks for your comment.

  • smrstrauss

    Re: “What passport did he use to travel to Pakistan in 1980 when US travelers were not allowed there? His Indonesian one?”

    I believe O bama went to Pakistan in 1981. But it is simply wrong that US travelers were not allowed into Pakistan in either year. In 1981, Pakistan was a LOT different from how it is now. US newspapers ran travel articles about “scenic Lahore.” Pakistan International Airlines had an office on New York’s Fifth Avenue and few from JFK Airport via London to Karachi. Pakistan granted US travelers 30-day visas on arrival in Pakistan. Pakistan was not on any no-travel list of the US State Department.

    So, Obama could have, and did, travel to Pakistan on a US passport. Obama never had an Indonesian passport. Both Indonesia and the US State Department have said that Obama was never a citizen of Indonesia.

  • smrstrauss

    Re: “Why does his birth certificate posted on FactCheck.org say it was issued on his date of birth…?”

    It doesn’t. The photo (http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg) clearly lists the date of birth as August 4 and the Date Filed by Registrar as August 8.

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