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	<title>Comments on: Say it ain&#8217;t so, Joe (Lieberman just makes up healthcare data)</title>
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		<title>By: Joe White</title>
		<link>http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2009/10/29/say-it-aint-so-joe-lieberman-just-makes-up-healthcare-data/comment-page-1/#comment-61425</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my bad , 2000. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my bad , 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe White</title>
		<link>http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2009/10/29/say-it-aint-so-joe-lieberman-just-makes-up-healthcare-data/comment-page-1/#comment-61424</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 07:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is that why Dems put him on the ticket as their VP pick in 2004? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is that why Dems put him on the ticket as their VP pick in 2004?</p>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
		<link>http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2009/10/29/say-it-aint-so-joe-lieberman-just-makes-up-healthcare-data/comment-page-1/#comment-61403</link>
		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 03:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> :) </description>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lieberbush is one of the most corrupt politicians in Washington.&#160; He is bought and paid for by Big Oil, the banksters, the mercenary corporations, arms merchants, the HMOs, the health insurers, and who knows how many other monied interests.

He should just have a tattoo saying &quot;For Sale&quot; put on his forehead and be done with it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lieberbush is one of the most corrupt politicians in Washington.&nbsp; He is bought and paid for by Big Oil, the banksters, the mercenary corporations, arms merchants, the HMOs, the health insurers, and who knows how many other monied interests.</p>
<p>He should just have a tattoo saying &#8220;For Sale&#8221; put on his forehead and be done with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe White</title>
		<link>http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2009/10/29/say-it-aint-so-joe-lieberman-just-makes-up-healthcare-data/comment-page-1/#comment-61334</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is in the AP story that I linked earlier. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is in the AP story that I linked earlier.</p>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
		<link>http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2009/10/29/say-it-aint-so-joe-lieberman-just-makes-up-healthcare-data/comment-page-1/#comment-61326</link>
		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 02:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2009/10/29/say-it-aint-so-joe-lieberman-just-makes-up-healthcare-data/comment-page-1/#comment-61289&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CBO paper&lt;/a&gt; did you get this from. &#160;I can&#039;t find that at all.&#160; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which <a href="http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2009/10/29/say-it-aint-so-joe-lieberman-just-makes-up-healthcare-data/comment-page-1/#comment-61289" rel="nofollow">CBO paper</a> did you get this from. &nbsp;I can&#8217;t find that at all.&nbsp;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe White</title>
		<link>http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2009/10/29/say-it-aint-so-joe-lieberman-just-makes-up-healthcare-data/comment-page-1/#comment-61289</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 17:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll bet you&#039;re really excited then that the CBO says people enrolling in the public option will pay more than those with private insurance.

And like it or not we do have to consider whether it&#039;s a level playing field.

The overall effect on the economy must be taken into account because you dont treat patients in a vaccuum. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll bet you&#8217;re really excited then that the CBO says people enrolling in the public option will pay more than those with private insurance.</p>
<p>And like it or not we do have to consider whether it&#8217;s a level playing field.</p>
<p>The overall effect on the economy must be taken into account because you dont treat patients in a vaccuum.</p>
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		<title>By: ecthompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>ecthompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;m trying to do is deliver cost-effective medical care. The question isn&#039;t whether or the playing field will be even or uneven. The question is will this be more cost-effective for Americans? I think the answer is clearly yes. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;m trying to do is deliver cost-effective medical care. The question isn&#8217;t whether or the playing field will be even or uneven. The question is will this be more cost-effective for Americans? I think the answer is clearly yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe White</title>
		<link>http://www.whereistheoutrage.net/wordpress/2009/10/29/say-it-aint-so-joe-lieberman-just-makes-up-healthcare-data/comment-page-1/#comment-61274</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 03:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An AP story says &quot;&lt;a href=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091030/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul&gt;the government would offer competing coverage&lt;/a&gt; and consumers could shop for the policy that best met their needs...............The Congressional Budget Office said the result would be fees comparable to those doctors receive from private insurers. But for consumers, government-backed plans &quot;would typically have premiums that are somewhat higher than the average premiums for private plans&quot; sold in competition.&quot;

Nice public option, Dems. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An AP story says &#8220;&lt;a href=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091030/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_care_overhaul&gt;the government would offer competing coverage&lt;/a&gt; and consumers could shop for the policy that best met their needs&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;The Congressional Budget Office said the result would be fees comparable to those doctors receive from private insurers. But for consumers, government-backed plans &#8220;would typically have premiums that are somewhat higher than the average premiums for private plans&#8221; sold in competition.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nice public option, Dems.</p>
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		<title>By: askcherlock</title>
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		<dc:creator>askcherlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lieberman is off his rocker. Perhaps he has become so accustomed to being on the fence, he takes a stand that is not only implausible, but could stop the HCR from going forward witha public option. Without that, what&#039;s the point? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lieberman is off his rocker. Perhaps he has become so accustomed to being on the fence, he takes a stand that is not only implausible, but could stop the HCR from going forward witha public option. Without that, what&#8217;s the point?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &#039;public option&#039; won&#039;t &#039;compete on a level playing field&#039;

If it is setup or maintained or administered using taxpayer dollars, that is not &#039;a level playing field&#039;.

Can you make the argument that not one taxpayer dollar will be used to setup or maintain or administer the &#039;public option&#039;?

No, you can&#039;t. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8216;public option&#8217; won&#8217;t &#8216;compete on a level playing field&#8217;</p>
<p>If it is setup or maintained or administered using taxpayer dollars, that is not &#8216;a level playing field&#8217;.</p>
<p>Can you make the argument that not one taxpayer dollar will be used to setup or maintain or administer the &#8216;public option&#8217;?</p>
<p>No, you can&#8217;t.</p>
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